As a 34-year-old naturopath who migrated from Turkey to Australia when she was just three years old, Julide runs a successful practice that delivers health services and advice imbedded in Islamic philosophy. She believes we have an opportunity to spiritually recalibrate and realign ourselves, allowing us a chance for rebirth and reconnection with God.
An intelligent holistic approach that employs a spiritual component is essential, she says. Read on for our full Q&A.
Q: Who have been the most positive role models in life as you chase your dreams?
A: I’ve always found value in knowledge and insights shared from everyday people – from the man on the bus and woman on the train, to university colleagues and people in our mosques. All these regular people you meet, that are seemingly non-influential in a grander sense, are the ones who really shape you.
Ultimately though, in chasing your dreams it is really about carving your own journey as an individual. For me, I’ve always felt I wanted to help people through a number of different pathways, which led me down a more spiritual route. At a certain stage, this may have conflicted with my Father. While he wanted the best for me, for him that meant that if I wasn’t going to accept entrance into medical school then I should become a pharmacist for prestige, stability and money. But I didn’t care about that.
I say, find value in others to help you on your journey, but the more you focus on you and what matters to you, the more likely you are to find what you’re passionate about, and what speaks to your soul. When you do that, the money will follow and you’ll be more spiritually connected.
Q: What do you think should be most important in people’s lives?
A: Value each and every moment!
Whether that moment is superficially ‘good’ or ‘bad’, I believe every moment is precious and should be experienced fully with complete responsibility for your predicament.
Everyone has 24 hours in the day no matter who you are – the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), George Washington, Mother Theresa, or Mahatma Gandhi. And what these people do is take full responsibility for every moment they live. It may be easier to live life when we disempower ourselves by blaming society and blaming one another. But it can be truly rewarding to empower oneself by taking full responsibility for each moment you experience.
Now, this is a critical mentality in terms of your health. For example, some people have type-2 diabetes or cardiovascular disease – God didn’t give them these diseases, they are often due to their life choices. One should use these moments to fully realise what the world is telling you. Even if you get a disease and Allah blesses you with an unavoidable disease, then in such a circumstance you should accept unconditionally what has occurred and find opportunity in a new lifestyle and direction. Every moment is an opportunity.
In that sense, I also find time management skills are always essential, as well as what you spend your time on moment to moment. For example, I find the greatest way I can make an impact in the world is by spending my time on what I’m good at. I’m not a good administrator or accountant, for example, but I am a good naturopath, so I focus on being a pro at what I need to be focused on.
It all comes down to how we control the way we perceive the world – moment to moment.
Q: What do you think of the changing role of women in our society – from both a traditional and Islamic perspective?
A: Things are changing in a positive way, and I believe that is because we are learning to respect traditional, spiritual and modern perspectives in our individuality.
We need to take a step back and accept that God has made this world, and indeed made it so a man comes (carried in the womb) from a woman – remember, this was for a reason. If we look at history – and not his-story – we need to be careful about what we buy into. We need to see the historical truth around what Islam actually is. When we do that, we see in the Quran the focus is very often men and women, and not often a singular reference to either men or women.
Today, we have many scholars who are men, and not to say they are wrong, but it’s a shame we don’t have more female scholars. Many of our hadiths were translated directly from women, and there is much room for female scholars and leadership in women.
Ultimately, we women create the people who go out into our society, so much of the time, we’re busy fighting verbal wars around men having more rights. We should understand that men and women play very different roles. Men are primarily the breadwinners of the family, they have to go out nine-to-five for work. Men’s strength often comes from their mothers and wives.
I am a very happy working woman who can balance work, family and life commitments in a way I find very fulfilling. And yet there is nothing wrong with a woman who finds enormous utility in advancing her impact in her career and being a provider, nor is there anything wrong with a woman who has the blessed honour of staying home to raise her children.
We all provide value to society in our own way, and I think we are coming around to that.
Q: How can a woman – or anyone – live a life that adheres to their values and beliefs while also chasing their dreams?
A: I think this also relates to owning your spirituality and finding the truth within. That means looking inward and asking yourself what your authentic goals are. Is it to have the most shoes, or to please the Creator through conscious living?
It’s about being real with yourself, and not needing your mind to be pointlessly stimulated – you would not believe the places people take their phones so they can avoid looking inward into their mind and soul! Owning up to your lifestyle and what you’re experiencing now is hugely challenging as it requires strong self-reflection.
It is also hugely invaluable and a reward that keeps on giving.
This interview has been edited to reflect Juilde is a practicing naturopath.
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Talal currently serves as a Non-Executive Director on the Whitlam Institute and Western Sydney University Foundation Council Board. He also serves as Chairman of First Quay Capital and Chairman of the Australian Arab Dialogue. Talal has also served on the Australia Post, Board of Sydney Ports, Macquarie University and the Western Sydney Area Health Service and the Chairman of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade; Council of Australia Arab Relations. In an executive capacity, Talal spent 10 years at PwC as a director and strategist, and at investment firm Babcock & Brown in the Corporate Finance Group and later in the Technical Real Estate Division. Later Talal held leadership positions in Better Place Australia, Platinum Hearing and Star Transport Australia.